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【中国观察2021年12月28日讯】
主持人：从2015年他宣布要竞选美国总统的那一刻起，唐纳德-川普就一直是世界新闻的主角。五年来，他每天都主导着全世界的世界新闻。唐纳德-特朗普曾这样说。据称唐纳德-特朗普说过这个，其他人又是怎么说他的？然而，从今年年初开始，在美国之外发生了一些非常奇怪的事情，他几乎消失了。他被压制了吗？是自愿的吗？发生了什么事？那么今天呢？我们将发现我们将打破这一点，为采访唐纳德-特朗普,特朗普与我，奈杰尔-法拉奇向世界说话。这里是GB新闻。很高兴看到你。据称唐纳德-特朗普说过这个，其他人又是怎么说他的？然而，从今年年初开始，在美国之外发生了一些非常奇怪的事情，他几乎消失了。他被压制了吗？是自愿的吗？发生了什么事？那么今天呢？我们将发现我们将打破这一点，第一大为采访唐纳德-特朗普已经做了这是特朗普与我，奈杰尔-法拉奇向世界说话。这里是GB新闻。很高兴看到它。
川普总统：好吧，我不知道它是如此安静，但如果你这么说，那我就没问题了。我想知道这是不是因为社交媒体的原因？在非常、非常大的程度上？我不知道。我是说我没有听说过，但有可能是这样。我有很多话要说，有时我想说他，有时我觉得基于立场，说他不合适。我们有一个很好的选举。我们最后发现这是一次被操纵的选举。不幸的是，我们得到了比历史上任何现任总统都要多的选票，到目前为止有7500万票，超过1200万。我们在上一次选举中得到的，大约是6300万票，我想我们已经。我们对很多事情说了很多，当然也有很多要谈的。如果你看看阿富汗的撤军情况，我想这是我们国家历史上最尴尬的时刻，你再看看我们的边境。我们的边界发生了什么？你看一下能源的成本。我们是能源独立的，我们不再是了。你看看这么多不同的事情，你和我可以谈一整天，是的，美国发生的事情很令人羞愧。
主持人：我们没有听到你，我猜是通过Twitter。这是为你。你知道的东西，用了一个巨大的影响。由于股东的压力，老杰克-多尔西被免去了Twitter的CEO职务。但这是否意味着他们将改善作为一个渠道或不。当我惊讶的时候，你刚才提到阿富汗的塔利班，塔利班占领喀布尔的那一天，我确实放出消息说，他们的领导层还在Twitter上活跃，而你却还很糟糕，这似乎很可笑。
川普总统：好吧，他们所做的是错误的，我们面对的是美国总统，他显然是一个受欢迎的总统，从你看到的一切和他们和Facebook来看。而且我认为他们犯了一个大错误。我认为，如果他们有机会再做一次，他们就不会这样做。我们是，你知道，我们把声音传出去。我们必须这样做。我们有义务这样做，但他要离开。我想这可能是被强制执行的，因为他们已经倒下了。还有就是推特上已经没有兴奋点了。据我了解，以前是这样的。不仅是我，保守的人都在离开，被取消了，所以他们取消了。他们正在离开，就我而言，你知道我们曾经与自由主义者和其他所有人有巨大的互动，而现在他们只是说这是一个非常无聊的地方。推特，它正在下降，数字正在下降。
主持人：他们在那里对选举，正如你所说的，你比2016年多了1100万票，因为我们知道发生了什么。你知道，去年2月29日我和你在CPAC的后台，我认为他将赢得40个州。我的意思是，事情看起来很好，大流行病来了，然后你被两边批评了。拜登说你有仇外心理，因为你关闭了边界。你说我们不希望外国的航空旅行。我们不希望这种病毒从另一边被带进来。说你封锁得不够严密。我的意思是困难。在大流行病的情况下，作为一个总统作为一个领导人获胜，但真正的影响当然是在美国有史以来第一次，数以千万计的选票。被送出去？是的，通过邮件系统。
川普总统：他们使用COVID或中国病毒，他们称之为 Robin 操纵和窃取选举，他们发出了数以百万计的选票。在许多情况下，没有人知道他们去了哪里，这是一个耻辱，每个人都知道。你看看现在的民意调查。我们国家有很大比例的人知道这一点，这对民主非常不利。非常非常糟糕。
主持人：但问题是在这些州的许多地方，因为他们以前从未见过这种情况。他们在收集选票方面所做的事情并不违反法律，这也是问题的一部分。
川普总统：但是他们在很多情况下没有得到立法机构的批准，你必须这样做，所以它是违反法律的，没有得到州立法机构的批准。你知道你不能这样做，甚至通过法院。你不能这样做。它必须通过立法机构，而立法机构没有批准这些东西，法院也没有勇气接受它。因此，这是一个有趣的情况。但我们会看到这一切是如何结束的。
Host：From the moment in 2015 when he announced he was going to run to become U.S. President, Donald Trump has been in World News. He's dominated World News every day for five years all over the world. It was. Donald Trump has said this. Donald Trump is alleged to have said that, and what other people said about him? Yet something very odd has happened since the beginning of this year outside the United States, he's virtually disappeared. Has he been silenced? Is it voluntary? What is going on? Well today? We're going to find out we're going to break that, and the first big for an interview with Donald Trump has done this is Trump speaks to the world with me, Nigel Farage. Here on GB news. Good to see it.
Trump:Well, I didn't know it was so quiet, but if you say so that's OK with me. I wonder is that because of social media? To a very, very large extent? I don't know. I mean I have not heard that, but it's possibly so. I have a lot of things to say and sometimes I wanna say him and sometimes I don't feel it's appropriate to say him based on the position. We had a great election. We ended up it was a rigged election. Unfortunately we got more votes than any sitting president in history by far 75 million votes, more than 12 million. What that we had from the previous election, which was about 63 million votes, I think we've. We've said a lot about a lot of things, and certainly there's a lot to talk about. If you look at what's going on in Afghanistan with the withdrawal, which was I think, the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country, and you look at our borders. What's happening with our borders? You look at the cost of energy. We are energy independent and we no longer are. You look at so many different things you and I could talk all day, yeah, and it's a shame what's happened to the United States.
Host：We've not heard you through, I guess through Twitter. It was was for you. You know something that used a massive effect. Old Jack Dorsey is being removed as CEO of Twitter because of shareholder pressure. But whether that means they'll improve as a channel or not. When I was amazed the day that the Taliban you mentioned Afghanistan a moment ago, the day the Taliban took over Kabul, I did put out a message that said it seemed ridiculous that their leadership was still active on Twitter, and yet you were still bad.
Trump:Well, they were wrong in what they did, and we're dealing with the United States President who's obviously a popular president from based on everything that you see and and them and Facebook. And I think they made a big mistake. I think if they had it to do over again, they wouldn't be doing it. We are, you know, we get the voice out. We have to do it. We have an obligation to do that, but he's leaving. I guess it was probably enforced because they're down. And also there's no excitement on Twitter anymore. As I understand it used to be. Not only me, conservative people are are leaving and being cancelled, so they cancelled. They're leaving and in my case you know we used to get tremendous interaction with liberals and and everybody else, and now they just say it's a very boring place to be. Twitter, it's going down, the numbers are going way down.
Host：There they are on the election, as you say, you got 11 million votes more than you got in 2016 because we know what happened. You know, 29th of February last year I was with you backstage at CPAC and and I thought he's gonna win 40 states. I mean things were looking terrific, the pandemic hit and then you kind of got criticised from both sides. Biden said you were xenophobic because you closed the borders you. You said we don't want foreign air travel. We don't want this virus being brought in the other side. Said you didn't lock down hard enough. I mean difficult. With a pandemic to win as a president as a leader, but the real effect of course was for the first time ever in America, 10s of millions of ballots. Being sent out? Yep, through the mail system.
Trump:Well they use COVID or the China virus as they call it to Robin rig and steal an election and they sent out millions and millions of ballots. Nobody knows where they went in so many cases and it was a disgrace and everybody knows it. You look at even polls now. Big percentage of our country knows it and it's very bad for democracy. Very very bad.
Host：But the problem was in so many of these states because they've never seen it before. Kind of what they did in in in collecting the votes wasn't against the law, and that was part of the problem.
Trump:Well, but they didn't get it approved in many cases by legislatures and you have to, so therefore it is against the law wasn't approved by state legislatures. You know you can't do it even through a court. You can't do. It has to go through the legislature and the legislature's didn't approve this stuff and the courts didn't have the courage to take it up. And so it's an interesting situation. But we'll see how it all ends up.
Trump:Well, I didn't know it was so quiet, but if you say so that's OK with me. I wonder is that because of social media? To a very, very large extent? I don't know. I mean I have not heard that, but it's possibly so. I have a lot of things to say and sometimes I wanna say him and sometimes I don't feel it's appropriate to say him based on the position. We had a great election. We ended up it was a rigged election. Unfortunately we got more votes than any sitting president in history by far 75 million votes, more than 12 million. What that we had from the previous election, which was about 63 million votes, I think we've. We've said a lot about a lot of things, and certainly there's a lot to talk about. If you look at what's going on in Afghanistan with the withdrawal, which was I think, the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country, and you look at our borders. What's happening with our borders? You look at the cost of energy. We are energy independent and we no longer are. You look at so many different things you and I could talk all day, yeah, and it's a shame what's happened to the United States.
Host：We've not heard you through, I guess through Twitter. It was was for you. You know something that used a massive effect. Old Jack Dorsey is being removed as CEO of Twitter because of shareholder pressure. But whether that means they'll improve as a channel or not. When I was amazed the day that the Taliban you mentioned Afghanistan a moment ago, the day the Taliban took over Kabul, I did put out a message that said it seemed ridiculous that their leadership was still active on Twitter, and yet you were still bad.
Trump:Well, they were wrong in what they did, and we're dealing with the United States President who's obviously a popular president from based on everything that you see and and them and Facebook. And I think they made a big mistake. I think if they had it to do over again, they wouldn't be doing it. We are, you know, we get the voice out. We have to do it. We have an obligation to do that, but he's leaving. I guess it was probably enforced because they're down. And also there's no excitement on Twitter anymore. As I understand it used to be. Not only me, conservative people are are leaving and being cancelled, so they cancelled. They're leaving and in my case you know we used to get tremendous interaction with liberals and and everybody else, and now they just say it's a very boring place to be. Twitter, it's going down, the numbers are going way down.
Host：There they are on the election, as you say, you got 11 million votes more than you got in 2016 because we know what happened. You know, 29th of February last year I was with you backstage at CPAC and and I thought he's gonna win 40 states. I mean things were looking terrific, the pandemic hit and then you kind of got criticised from both sides. Biden said you were xenophobic because you closed the borders you. You said we don't want foreign air travel. We don't want this virus being brought in the other side. Said you didn't lock down hard enough. I mean difficult. With a pandemic to win as a president as a leader, but the real effect of course was for the first time ever in America, 10s of millions of ballots. Being sent out? Yep, through the mail system.
Trump:Well they use COVID or the China virus as they call it to Robin rig and steal an election and they sent out millions and millions of ballots. Nobody knows where they went in so many cases and it was a disgrace and everybody knows it. You look at even polls now. Big percentage of our country knows it and it's very bad for democracy. Very very bad.
Host：But the problem was in so many of these states because they've never seen it before. Kind of what they did in in in collecting the votes wasn't against the law, and that was part of the problem.
Trump:Well, but they didn't get it approved in many cases by legislatures and you have to, so therefore it is against the law wasn't approved by state legislatures. You know you can't do it even through a court. You can't do. It has to go through the legislature and the legislature's didn't approve this stuff and the courts didn't have the courage to take it up. And so it's an interesting situation. But we'll see how it all ends up.